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[alombar42]

According to a message I received today, my alombar42_backup acct has been restored, because "you are correct that the alombar42_backup account was frozen by mistake".

I was not impressed to read that "you were playing these accounts in a manner that violated the site's Terms and Conditions and the spirit of the website". So, no cheating this time, just "you have made too many neopoints and we don't like your methods of doing it". Just FYI, my methods included monopolies, price-control, underselling etc. Just like real life, without the anti-trust laws - but there are no such laws in Neo

The site has the right to freeze anyone, even for no reason and I can accept this, as part of the terms. I would appreciate it, if that was directly spoken out.


Note to moderators: is there any way to move this msg below "too cold these days?" - I'm still a newbie here
Yoshi edit: Nope, unfortunately. However, I'll just post a link to that topic for you. ;P

[everconfused]

Hmm, so you were able to get one account restored. That's good, that's your guild account? Is a little confused which one is which.

It does sound like the whole "mall" thing, making alot (I'm guessing) of np on all your accounts - especially if you were doing, as you put it, monopolies and price-fixing - is the reasoning for the freezing.

I don't understand yet the reason for your other account(s?) being frozen for downloading a cheat program. On the other hand, Neo does frown on people trying to "price fix" or cause "artificial inflation". I guess there's no category for that in the reason for freezing messages.

I guess the bottom line is don't be too successful (especially if you do have more than one account or an account that's fairly new) or bring too much attention on yourself. Otherwise it appears you run the risk of being: scammed, hacked, having false reports from jealous or disgruntled players or as in your case, frozen.

[Qanda]

"you were playing these accounts in a manner that violated the site's Terms and Conditions and the spirit of the website". So, no cheating this time, just "you have made too many neopoints and we don't like your methods of doing it".

EDIT:
Oh wait, I just found it. The most important rule of all which everyone should memorise:

Remember, this is a free website and we reserve the right to prohibit the use of the site to any user at any time.

Last edited by Qanda on Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:35 am, edited 1 time in total.

[coming2atvnearu]

That's horrible!

There's no rule in the TOS for having strategy and playing the game better than everyone else.

This is why we all petitioned for a complete Terms of Service. Unfortunately, all they did was drop a line to the legal department and the innocent users get cheated because of their ineptitutde.

Alombar, I thoroughly respect anyone that is able to see outside the accustomed method of doing something and find a new, improved, more efficient way. I'm sorry to see that you're being punished for building a better mousetrap.

EDIT: The "spirit of the website?' Shoot me with a stick!!!
I'm pretty sure that if we are judging by TNT's example, then making money is the true spirit of the website!
In that case, you did just fine! In fact, you're learning from the masters.

[alombar42]

Hmm, so you were able to get one account restored. That's good, that's your guild account? Is a little confused which one is which.

It does sound like the whole "mall" thing, making alot (I'm guessing) of np on all your accounts - especially if you were doing, as you put it, monopolies and price-fixing - is the reasoning for the freezing.

I had a total of six active accounts (shops), plus another four rarely used (I had to split neopoints here and there for safekeeping... I had lost 15M and hacked for another 40M between other incidents). I was actively playing and stocking all these shops (as you may know, all my neo-fun and neo-activity was in the shops).
All of them got frozen, including the inactive ones and the gallery, for downloading cheat programs (first reply).

Another acct, created long ago, when I had also been frozen, was alombar42_backup, only used for communication when I was frozen, i.e. once or twice a year (no nps, no shop, nothing). This was not frozen the first time - got frozen three days later though, for the same reason. This one is restored ("frozen by mistake") - haven't tried it yet.

As for making nps, maybe I should start writing guides. You see, it's easy to make nps and extremely easy if you're on the top-10 shops or if you have an "always there, always stocked" specialised shop

Neo does frown on people trying to "price fix" or cause "artificial inflation". I guess there's no category for that in the reason for freezing messages.

That's how I was playing since 2001 (since when I had enough nps to spend) and I have faced lots of "flooding" that takes prices down (but even this may result into more profit, if one is flexible enough).

The "spirit of the website", also known as "dollars", is much more powerful though (that would also answer Quanda's wonders)

I guess the bottom line is don't be too successful (especially if you do have more than one account or an account that's fairly new) or bring too much attention on yourself.

In other words, don't play. We agree on this (but there should be some alternative).

I'm pretty sure that if we are judging by TNT's example, then making money is the true spirit of the website!
In that case, you did just fine! In fact, you're learning from the masters.

You are right (blushing is bad for business) and, who knows, you may later call yourself a prophet. As my motto goes, I am not young enough to know everything, but I am young enough to try
(1st rule of success = "never say all you know", 2nd rule = "")

PS: Hopefully, I managed to multi-quote for the first time LOL

[happysmileyfungirl]

I had a total of six active accounts (shops), plus another four rarely used

that may be why they froze you, I think your allowed a maximum of four accounts.

[Jasujo]

that may be why they froze you, I think your allowed a maximum of four accounts.

Actually, that rule wasn't instated until a couple years after Neopets was started. When it began, you could have many multiple accounts. Any multis created before the date the rule was put into place were supposed to be okay as long as the member did not create any more.

[dogfriend2]

I'm sorry about your accounts Vas.