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it has always been murky waters where multiple accounts are concerned. i am sure over 90% of the players have done dubious stuff once in a while with multiple accounts. for example, who has never ever done quests (illusens, taelia..etc), submitted answers for LC, mystery pics, restocked, play games (any kind, even chance games) on more than one account. or for that matter, nobody has ever "accidentally" done freebies, scratchcards on more than one account?

of course, there are a few strict no-nos where multiple accounts are concerned like voting for your own pet in BC from another account, ritual, agressive collecting of freebies on all accounts. the monitors are actually normal humans like us, so what you normally think is risky to do is probably what's illegal on their mind. be smart if you want to do dubious things like multiple account restocking. for example, if you restocked a vastly popular item like a t-tear, faerie doll or attack peas, do you think it's safe to immediately move it to your main account? obviously, with all the commotion accompanied in the neoboards whenever such item restock, any lurking monitors are likely to check, out of idle curiousity who is the lucky one. on the other hand, it would be quite safe if you transfer more common item over to your main account to sell. however, IMO, if you restock on more than one account, it is best to sell them in the account you restock in. have different email addys and always remember to play them as independently as possible. transferring should be kept to the minimum and best at times when the traffic is low.

that said, no matter what you do or not, my stance is you could still be frozen. in fact, when i first started playing, i stuck to one account but ultimately was still frozen 8 mths into the game. the only mistake i made was perhaps been too vocal and neopolicing too much then, a mistake i am determined not to make again.

i thought of somthing...if you do need to transfer an item to someone on the same computer, use an in-between. get a TRUSTED friend to hold on to the item for about a month, and they can then give it to the actual person it's for.

digital, I haven't done that yet - had a mutual neofriend be the one to give, say my friend who plays on my computer, a pb or other higher rarity/np value item, but I do have one who has said she'd be willing to do just that. I'd put some things on the tp, she'd bid junk on them, hold them for a bit, then put them on the tp for my friend to bid junk on (for her gallery - no nefarious plans here folks).

No, I've never accidentally or otherwise done any dailies, bought scratchcards or played games on my other account. Because I'm perfect? Heck no, because I'm paranoid! Before I go to the game room, I check which account name I'm on.

Not really a restocker, so that one doesn't affect me, but the new rule does state clearly (shock) that you cannot restock on any other account. Why? Too many people would get rs banned on one, transfer np to another account ad rs there -- that's an unfair advantage. Same with buying scratchcards on more than one account --- there's a time limit on buying them, so using 2 accounts would be unfair. The dailies do say One Account and I think most of them always said that, at least since I started playing so that's a no-brainer. Not risking my accounts for an omelette or jelly or some junk from tombola.

To me the bottom line on the do's and don'ts, since they're not completely spelled out to my satisfaction or understanding (and alot of other people -- otherwise there wouldn't be questions on this here and on the site boards) is...if you question whether or not something is ok to do, it probably isn't and you're risking all your accounts.

Keep writing to support too. Ask questions. No, you may not get a straight answer, something other than an outdated auto-reply or an answer at all, depending on how busy they are. If you get an auto-reply and it doesn't make sense or doesn't answer, politely write again and ask for clarification. If we all keep sending in the same questions, sooner or (probably) later, someone in Support is going to say something to their superior ... even if it's complaining that there's too many people asking the same thing. That may just get through to someone that there is a problem.

Oh, I have a couple of times--been on my secondary account when I played a game or went to the wheel. And, just about bit my nails off waiting for the freezing gun. It never happened. But, I am overly cautious now.

you see, that's probably what's confusing. for example, if you spin the WoE, it's obviously wrong if you immediately log into another account to do WoE again. however, say 2 hours later, you are in your side account, would you spin the WoE or go back especially to your main account to spin it? principally, they are the same but going by the strict rules, it's not.

for those who say they would never risk using multiple accounts to gain advantage. think of this:

you are in a side account; assuming you do have the resource for all accounts. you happen to pop by the smuggler cove thinking "oh well, i'd never be lucky enough to see an attack pea, but no harm taking a peek" and lo and behold, you spot an super attack pea! at this point, what would you do?

1. quickly log into your main account where you have the dubloons ready to cove it

2. try to buy the dubloons in that side account and cove it

3. since you are not in your main account, don't do anything.

all of the players under that situation would have chosen either 1. or 2.

well, if you choose #2 you would be guilty of using multiple accounts to visit the cove. if you choose #1, it's technically the same as well. but i guess very few players are actually disciplined enough to tell themselves to avoid the cove while not in their main account.

But what if you run Linspire 4.5 and your browser has no cookies? (Mozilla is the browser for Linspire 4.5)

For the WOE? - If I really wanted to spin it again - go back to main account.

If I visited the cove (which I personally don't) just to have a peek and saw something awesome but I was on another account? Either 1, which would probably do no good - by the time you logged out, logged in, went and got enough dubloons it would be gone -- so kind of a moot point. So in all probability I'd choose 3.

I don't visit any of the main shops on my other account, well, once - I went to the usukiland shop to get the 2 avatars but that's it. So far, no one has said, and I've not seen any warnings or freezings for having avatars on more than one account...as long as they're not game or contest (BC, site/pet/gallery/neohome spotlite, Art Gallery, NT submissions) related, I don't think there could possibly be a problem.

I don't know how they handle things like special battle trophies or avatars on other accounts, that confuses me. Now I don't battle, but alot of people have an account just for training/battling and have gotten war trophies and special avatars. They don't seem (that I've seen) have had any problems there. Which is kind of unfair, as you're not allowed to gain trophies on a second account (says that in the rules in the "unfair advantage" sentence).

From the "new and improved" T&C:

(emphasis added by me)

It's the etc. that gets me, and alot of other people...what's in that etc.? And the "earn Neopoints with only one (1) account"...that makes it sound like we can't have a shop, use the tp or auctions on other accounts, but that's just what most of us do just to support those accounts. We're not all uber rich with multi-account "malls"... how are those people getting away with it if that's not allowed?

I've mailed them a few times about multiple accounts and game playing, here's what i've got:

Question: I was wondering whether I am allowed to get trophies on accounts other than my main account? I've got three side accounts and I'd like to make the lookups nicer with some trophies from CellBlock, Pyramids and those kinds of games.. would that be acceptable or not?

Answer: Yes, you are more than welcome to try to get trophies on your alternate accounts. Just be sure that you keep all of the np earned in that same account. Thank you for writing in and good luck!

Question: Is it OK to play games such as Cellblock and Ultimate Bullseye on more than one account? There used to be something about this in Terms and Conditions I think but I can't find it now, so have the rules changed? Is this acceptable or not? Thanks.

Answer: You shouldn't use other accounts to get more Neopoints (you can get enough to feed your pets, but that's about all). Thanks for the email.

Question: Hello! I was just wondering in relation to the beauty contest - well my friend's pet is in it, and I have three accounts (which obviously i'm allowed to have as the rules say no more than 4) - am i allowed to vote for her pet on all three of my accounts or may i only vote on one?

Answer: There's no rules against it. But it wouldn't really fair.

So, in short, they can't make their minds up :/

yep...golden rule if you are using multiple accounts. if you got something good from the cove, restock..let it "rot" in that account or sell it and keep the np there. after all, no matter which account that item is, it's still yours. this is probably why some multi-mall owners are safe because they keep the finance on each account independent of one another.



so you are not even going to attempt to, not even if you see an umbrella shield for 3 dubloon or a battle plunger for 12 dubloons, which you can easily buy off the shop wiz and has a high chance of been in time?

Nope, not if it's not on my main account. The no restocking rule is one of the few very clear ones in the T&C. I'm not going to lose my accounts due to "multi-ing" for the chance (that I wouldn't get anyway cause I'm on dial-up) to restock 1 thing.

Holly, I'm not sure that Support can't make up their minds on what is and isn't allowed. I think it's that they're not being told that this is 100% allowed and that is 100% not allowed. There seems to be, to me at least, a break down or lack of communication between the bosses and the employees.

Like once upon a time I worked in a bank, on the platform (opened accounts, etc.). Now the bank branch manager was everyone's boss -- he got information on new/changed laws, rules and regulations from the main branch legal department. The branch manager gives this information, in writing, to the assistant branch manager -- who was in charge of the platform. He gives us that informatioin, we'd have a meeting and discuss what the changes meant, asked questions, etc. until everything was crystal clear.

I'm not saying Neopets is like a bank certainly, but I'm trying to make my point about there being this breakdown in communication. How can someone from Support give us a firm, complete answer with assurance - and every Support Team member give the same answer no matter who writes in -- if they don't have the correct information. It seems like they're doing as much interpretation of the T&C as the members are! And that's not a good thing. This speaks directly to the fact that the T&C is flawed: it's vague, open to interpretation, there are "unwritten" rules, incomplete rules.

Of anything that happens on the site - downtime, glitches, all the stuff that does drive us all crazy, it's really the T&C that can make me downright We were told that the T&C had been updated and had been improved...it wasn't. The same questions about the same topics since I joined 2 years ago are still being asked...and are still getting confusing/conflicting answers.

Yeah, unfortunately I think you're completely correct - which sucks. There should be a definitive answer for every issue - a book or something, that they have, and we have, so that everyone knows how the land lies and no one can claim ignorance.

I just can't see it ever happening :/

Both my sister and I have been playing for over FOUR years on the same IP, and we've never been frozen. We've created legal storage accounts also.