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How do you compare a meter to an acre? that just doesnt clikc with me. An Acre is a measure of land area while a meter is a measure of distance


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im failing to see youre point.
(and you compare them the same way you compare volume and length, with stupidly long eqautions)


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IDBforumsSPY wrote:
How do you compare a meter to an acre? that just doesnt clikc with me. An Acre is a measure of land area while a meter is a measure of distance


I know, I just felt stupid writing "as long as a football field". XD


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They probably have the same problem in neopia. Meridell, brightvale and tyrannia use feet and inches, the space station and kreludor use meters and litres. Lost Desert probaby uses cubits or rods & chains or something. That's probably why maraqua got sucked into a giant whirlpool in the first place. Bad conversion calculations.


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In general: Why make a metric Neomeasurment system, when we already have a metric system?

Seems to me that alternating, roughly, between the two real-life systems that almost (?) everyone on Neopets uses in real life (surely we can all agree that most folks online are familiar with either feet or meters, if not both) is pretty reasonable.

If we have to have specifically Neopian units, shouldn't they be different from either real-world system?

I'm imagining something akin to the wizard monetary system in the Harry Potter books. (That could certainly make Lenny Conundrums more tricky. . . .)


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Kess: I love it.

In general: Why make a metric Neomeasurment system, when we already have a metric system?

Seems to me that alternating, roughly, between the two real-life systems that almost (?) everyone on Neopets uses in real life (surely we can all agree that most folks online are familiar with either feet or meters, if not both) is pretty reasonable.

If we have to have specifically Neopian units, shouldn't they be different from either real-world system?

I'm imagining something akin to the wizard monetary system in the Harry Potter books. (That could certainly make Lenny Conundrums more tricky. . . .)


Isn't the feet/inches/yard thing already like that? Totally insane and out of date I mean. :P


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so out of date that no one can be bothered to learn it.
seriously, its not that hard to convert them.


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but if neo meters do get made
then there would again be another neccesary conversion table
to convert it into metres (haha canadain style(and british))

for things like physics questions and other things that require a formula
in metres

and doesn't that totally abolish the idea of neometres
or another system cause another conversion table has to be
made anyway


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I'm imagining something akin to the wizard monetary system in the Harry Potter books


That's honestly what I was thinking of when I wrote the measurements, but I decided to have something simpler.

And that was sort of like a test thing, to see how it would work. I didn't mean for it to be Neometric. =P


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They probably have the same problem in neopia. Meridell, brightvale and tyrannia use feet and inches, the space station and kreludor use meters and litres. Lost Desert probaby uses cubits or rods & chains or something. That's probably why maraqua got sucked into a giant whirlpool in the first place. Bad conversion calculations.


:roflol: Niiiice.

I don't really see the need for Neolengths and whatnot. Imagine how confused some people will be. Nah, I think we're better off with whatever. Besides, they don't use length or weight too much. It's not a very important part of Neopets.


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If we have to have specifically Neopian units, shouldn't they be different from either real-world system?

But isn't NST just Pacific Time with a new label? Why not just call it Neometric, to make sure everyone uses it, and be done with it.

I was curious about this because I was writing a story, and I didn't know if I ought to say the Negg was nine feet away or ten meters.


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Most of people realize that Neopets has come to their real life. :P


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But isn't NST just Pacific Time with a new label? Why not just call it Neometric, to make sure everyone uses it, and be done with it.


Couple main differences, as I see it:

1) There are around 20 or so different time systems used by Neopets users (24 basic zones, minus any where there simply aren't the users, plus perhaps some of the local zones that are 15 or 30 minutes off from one of the 24), as opposed to just two major sets of measurements.

2) There's also a compelling reason for setting a single Neopian time, so that users can keep track of timed activities -- not just Snowager, but the start of each Neopian day, for things like Advent Calendar, Tombola, Island Mystic, Coltzan's Shrine, Grumpy Old King, Wise Old King. . . . Even Turmaculus depends to a degree on that, since if you know he's been woken once that Neopian day, you don't have to check him again until after midnight Neo time. (I don't do Illusen's/Jhudora's quests, but aren't they also limited by the Neopian day?) But distance/length, weight/mass, volume, temperature, etc., aren't of nearly as much importance in daily Neopian life -- they come into play almost exclusively in Lenny Conundrum, where the terms can be easily set for the individual puzzle.

(Besides, if we were going by the example of NST, the logical extension of that would be use the measurement system most used in California . . . which I don't believe has switched to metric.)


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Naniwai wrote:
But isn't NST just Pacific Time with a new label? Why not just call it Neometric, to make sure everyone uses it, and be done with it.


Couple main differences, as I see it:

1) There are around 20 or so different time systems used by Neopets users (24 basic zones, minus any where there simply aren't the users, plus perhaps some of the local zones that are 15 or 30 minutes off from one of the 24), as opposed to just two major sets of measurements.

2) There's also a compelling reason for setting a single Neopian time, so that users can keep track of timed activities -- not just Snowager, but the start of each Neopian day, for things like Advent Calendar, Tombola, Island Mystic, Coltzan's Shrine, Grumpy Old King, Wise Old King. . . . Even Turmaculus depends to a degree on that, since if you know he's been woken once that Neopian day, you don't have to check him again until after midnight Neo time. (I don't do Illusen's/Jhudora's quests, but aren't they also limited by the Neopian day?) But distance/length, weight/mass, volume, temperature, etc., aren't of nearly as much importance in daily Neopian life -- they come into play almost exclusively in Lenny Conundrum, where the terms can be easily set for the individual puzzle.

(Besides, if we were going by the example of NST, the logical extension of that would be use the measurement system most used in California . . . which I don't believe has switched to metric.)

But there needs to be something standard, be it feet or meters. They don't have to be neo-whatevers, but I think a standard is needed. Like the example I gave above, we need to know which to use. I live in the U.S. and use feet, but metric is waaaaaay easier, especially when it comes to conversions.

And most of the world does use metric.


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Face it. Neo is located in California. California is in the United States. The United States uses english rule as a measurement system. Neo uses english rule as a measurement system. TNT celebrates Thanksgiving on Nov. 25(ish).
Do you want TNT to also celebrate thanksgiving a month earlier to accomodate for the Canadians? Should TNT get the day of for Yom Kippur or Rosh Hashanna (sorry for possibly butchering that one)? I think a minor issue like this needs to die already, some thing will never change.


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